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Rebellious Wellness Lifestyle: Dr. Cathleen Brown on Hormone Therapy for UTIs - Episode #181

Published: October, 2026

Dr. Cathleen Brown

Featured Physician

Cathleen M. Brown

Host

Gregory Anne Cox

Dr. Cathleen Brown is the Medical Director at Winona and a board-certified OB/GYN. She joined host Gregory Anne Cox on Episode #181 of The Rebellious Wellness Lifestyle Podcast, titled “Hormone Therapy for UTIs? Dr. Cat Brown.”

The conversation covered how localized vaginal estrogen can help with more than just vaginal dryness, offering protection against recurring urinary tract infections (UTIs) after menopause. Dr. Brown also discussed estrogen face cream, the ideal window for starting hormone therapy, and what the age recommendations mean (and don’t mean) for women considering treatment.

The episode provided practical, evidence-based guidance about parts of the menopause transition that don’t get as much public attention.

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Episode Details

  • Podcast: Rebellious Wellness Lifestyle

  • Episode: 181

  • Episode Title: Episode #181: Hormone Therapy for UTIs? Dr. Cat Brown

  • Host: Gregory Anne Cox

  • Guest: Dr. Cathleen Brown

  • Published Date: October 1, 2026

  • Episode Duration: 38 minutes

  • Format: Audio & Video Interview

  • Main Topics: Vaginal estrogen, UTIs, HRT timing

About Rebellious Wellness Lifestyle

Rebellious Wellness Lifestyle is a weekly podcast hosted by Gregory Anne Cox, who has worked in wellness for more than 20 years. Created for women over 50, each episode offers expert interviews, host commentary, and science-based health information from outside the mainstream media. Popular topics include genetics, wearables, hormones, and wellness practices that reach beyond the five senses.

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About This Episode

Dr. Brown addressed why UTIs become more common after menopause. She explained how lower estrogen levels cause the tissue around the urethral opening to thin and the barrier that keeps vaginal bacteria out of the bladder to weaken. She discussed how vaginal estrogen treats these changes, with very little hormone absorbed throughout the body. She also reviewed different localized delivery methods, including cream, tablet, and ring options.

The episode also focused on systemic treatment timing. Dr. Brown said the optimal window to start hormone therapy is within 10 years of menopause, when studies show that the benefits generally outweigh the risks. She added that starting hormone therapy during perimenopause can offer more heart and bone protection.

Dr. Brown explained that age 60 is Winona’s cutoff for starting hormone therapy through telehealth, not a deadline for stopping treatment. For women over 60, she recommends consulting with an in-person menopause specialist who can monitor them closely.

Topics Covered

  • Winona’s treatment model and what telehealth cannot replace

  • Educational resources, the Winona Women’s Community app, and the Winona Women’s Group

  • Why estrogen matters and why symptoms start in perimenopause

  • The Women’s Health Initiative (WHI) study and its lasting impact on hormone therapy concerns

  • Why UTIs become more common after menopause

  • Vaginal estrogen options: creams, tablets, and rings

  • How painful sex can affect intimacy and relationships

  • Face cream with estriol and tretinoin for skin changes

  • Hormone therapy age recommendations and the window of opportunity

  • Finding an in-person menopause specialist for women over 60

  • Choosing a systemic delivery method that fits: patches, pills, or creams

  • The physician education gap in menopause care and how women can advocate for themselves

Key Takeaways

Vaginal estrogen treats tissue changes that contribute to recurring UTIs after menopause

Dr. Brown explained that declining estrogen thins the tissue around the urethral opening, making it easier for bacteria to enter the bladder. Vaginal estrogen strengthens this localized tissue and restores the integrity of the barrier. She noted that recurrent UTIs can lead to urosepsis, a serious infection that reaches the bloodstream, making prompt UTI diagnosis and treatment crucial.

Vaginal estrogen works differently than systemic hormone therapy

Dr. Brown emphasized that very little estrogen is absorbed into the bloodstream with localized treatments. Vaginal estrogen treats structural changes in vulvar and vaginal tissue rather than systemic symptoms like hot flashes, night sweats, or brain fog. For this reason, Dr. Brown explained that most women who cannot take systemic hormones for medical reasons are still able to safely use vaginal estrogen.

Dr. Brown explained that Winona’s age cutoff of 60 applies specifically to initiating hormone therapy through telehealth, as starting treatment past age 60 carries a slightly higher risk of blood clots. Women who begin hormone therapy closer to the onset of menopause and are experiencing benefits can continue treatment with ongoing physician consultation. For women over 60 who want to start hormone therapy, Dr. Brown recommends working with an in-person menopause specialist.

The optimal window to start hormone therapy is within 10 years of menopause

Menopause is officially reached after 12 consecutive months have passed without a menstrual period. Dr. Brown explained that the optimal time to start hormone therapy is within 10 years of that benchmark. She highlighted how starting treatment during perimenopause can offer greater benefits for cardiovascular and bone health, comparing it to filling up a gas tank before it reaches empty.

Sharing hormone therapy improvements with an in-person doctor can change the conversation

Dr. Brown encouraged women to advocate for their health by informing their in-person physician about any hormone therapy treatments they are taking, even if that particular doctor was initially hesitant to prescribe it. She noted that some patients’ doctors become more open to hormone therapy after seeing clinical improvement.


Cathleen M. Brown

Dr. Cathleen M. Brown

Obstetrics & Gynecology

Dr. Cathleen Brown is a menopause specialist and physician with Winona. She brings a physician’s perspective to menopause, perimenopause, hormone changes, symptom care, and treatment options during midlife.

At Winona, Dr. Brown helps women better understand symptoms, health history, hormone changes, and when physician-reviewed care may be appropriate.

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About Winona

Winona is a physician-led telehealth company focused on menopause and perimenopause care. Its board-certified physicians help women understand symptoms such as hot flashes, night sweats, sleep disruption, mood changes, brain fog, vaginal dryness, intimacy issues, weight changes, hair thinning, and joint discomfort.

When appropriate, Winona offers personalized treatment plans that may include hormone replacement therapy, bioidentical HRT, estrogen, progesterone, vaginal estrogen, and non-hormonal options. Winona also provides education and community support for women navigating hormone changes, menopause symptoms, perimenopause, and postmenopause.

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