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SHE Talks Health: Dr. Cathleen Brown on HRT, Perimenopause, and Menopause - Episode #180

Published: July, 2026

Dr. Cathleen Brown

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Cathleen M. Brown

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Sophie Shepherd

Board-certified OB-GYN and menopause specialist Dr. Cathleen Brown, Medical Director at Winona, joined host Sophie Shepherd on Episode #180 of the SHE Talks Health Podcast to clear up the confusion around starting hormone replacement therapy (HRT) before reaching menopause. The conversation covered how perimenopause symptoms can start as early as a woman's mid-30s and why treatment isn't one-size-fits-all.

Dr. Brown explained why symptom tracking often provides more useful information than hormone lab tests to guide HRT treatment decisions. She also walked listeners through the differences between estrogen, testosterone, and DHEA, and discussed how declining hormone levels can affect fat distribution, thyroid function, and heart health long before menopause officially arrives.


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Episode Details

  • Podcast: SHE Talks Health

  • Episode: 180

  • Episode Title: Ep. #180: Everything You Need To Know About HRT Before Menopause Starts with Dr. Cathleen Brown

  • Host: Sophie Shepherd

  • Guest: Dr. Cathleen Brown, Medical Director at Winona

  • Published Date: July 23, 2026

  • Episode Duration: 48 minutes

  • Format: Audio Interview 

  • Main Topics: HRT, Perimenopause, Hormone-thyroid connection

About SHE Talks Health

SHE Talks Health is a podcast hosted by Sophie Shepherd, a mind-body wellness coach and functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner, focused on guiding women toward better thyroid and hormone health. The show features conversations with practitioners and specialists on topics ranging from thyroid disorders to hormonal imbalances to women's overall well-being.

Episodes combine Sophie's own coaching background with guest expertise, aiming to help listeners understand the root causes behind their symptoms rather than treating them in isolation.

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About This Episode

In this episode, Dr. Cathleen Brown explained why so many women experience unexpected weight gain, brain fog, and fatigue in the years leading up to menopause. She clarified how elevated cortisol levels and erratic hormone fluctuations, rather than hormone decline alone, often drive the weight gain many women notice around the midsection during the transition. She also shared why symptom tracking gives a clearer idea of a patient’s menopause status than a single hormone lab test.

The conversation also explored the often-overlooked link between hormonal shifts and thyroid function, why testosterone decline starts earlier and more gradually than estrogen decline, and what to look for in a telehealth doctor. 

Dr. Brown closed the episode by highlighting the cardiovascular and bone health benefits associated with starting hormone therapy at the right time, encouraging listeners to seek support before symptoms become overwhelming.

Topics Covered

  • Why weight gain and cortisol levels increase during the menopause transition

  • Why symptom tracking is more useful than hormone lab tests for managing perimenopause

  • Early, easy-to-miss signs of perimenopause

  • Why perimenopause can start in a woman's mid-30s

  • Managing side effects as the body adjusts to HRT

  • The difference between estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and DHEA

  • Why testosterone hormone pellets carry more risk than reward

  • What to look for in a qualified telehealth HRT physician

  • The connection between hormonal changes and thyroid function

  • How HRT affects cholesterol and long-term heart health

  • The role of estrogen in protecting bone density

Weight gain during the menopause transition is often driven by cortisol, not just hormone decline

Dr. Brown explained that fluctuating estrogen levels can push the body into a heightened state of stress, raising cortisol levels and prompting it to hold onto calories, particularly around the abdominal area. She noted that improving sleep and lowering stress levels are key factors for effective weight management during the menopause transition.

Symptom tracking is a more reliable guide than a single hormone lab test

Because female reproductive hormones are released in an erratic, pulsatile pattern during perimenopause, Dr. Brown explained that one blood draw offers only an isolated snapshot of hormone activity rather than a full diagnostic picture. She recommended that women log their symptoms over time and bring that record to their doctor so they can get a holistic idea of a patient’s menopausal health.

Testosterone decline starts earlier and more gradually than estrogen decline

Dr. Brown noted that testosterone levels typically begin dropping in a woman's 30s, well before the sharper estrogen and progesterone decline that occurs during the 40s. She explained that this gradual loss of testosterone can affect energy, libido, and muscle mass long before other perimenopause symptoms appear.

Hormone pellets carry more risk than other forms of testosterone therapy

Dr. Brown explained that hormone pellets require an invasive insertion procedure below the skin. Because they release a fixed hormone dose over three months, there is no way to adjust the pellet if a patient experiences adverse side effects. She pointed out how other hormone delivery methods can be fine-tuned more quickly based on how a patient responds.

Starting hormone therapy at the right time can support long-term heart and bone health

Estrogen helps maintain the elasticity of blood vessels. Dr. Brown emphasized that starting hormone therapy before age 60 or within 10 years of menopause onset is associated with improved cholesterol levels and reduced cardiovascular risk in appropriately screened patients. She added that supplementing low estrogen levels also helps protect against bone density loss, reducing the risk of osteoporosis, which increases during the menopause transition.

Cathleen M. Brown

Dr. Cathleen M. Brown

Obstetrics & Gynecology

Dr. Cathleen Brown is a menopause specialist and physician with Winona. She brings a physician’s perspective to menopause, perimenopause, hormone changes, symptom care, and treatment options during midlife.

At Winona, Dr. Brown helps women better understand symptoms, health history, hormone changes, and when physician-reviewed care may be appropriate.

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About Winona

Winona is a physician-led telehealth company focused on menopause and perimenopause care. Its board-certified physicians help women understand symptoms such as hot flashes, night sweats, sleep disruption, mood changes, brain fog, vaginal dryness, intimacy issues, weight changes, hair thinning, and joint discomfort.

When appropriate, Winona offers personalized treatment plans that may include hormone replacement therapy, bioidentical HRT, estrogen, progesterone, vaginal estrogen, and non-hormonal options. Winona also provides education and community support for women navigating hormone changes, menopause symptoms, perimenopause, and postmenopause.

To learn more, get started with Winona.

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