The Menopause Hour Season 2 - Episode -36
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The Menopause Hour with Winona: Surprising Signs of Perimenopause - Episode #36

Published: March, 2026

Dr. Cathleen Brown

Featured Physician

Cathleen M. Brown

Host

Madi Baldwin

Episode #36 of The Menopause Hour with Winona is a Doctor Dialogue hosted by Winona's Madi Baldwin, featuring Dr. Cathleen Brown alongside guest Dr. Taylor Hahn, a dual board-certified OBGYN and obesity medicine physician. The two doctors discussed lesser-known perimenopause symptoms that often catch women off guard, from itchy ears and eyes to sudden sensitivity to smells.

The conversation covered frozen shoulder, new-onset anxiety & panic attacks, and changes in libido and confidence during the menopause transition. Dr. Brown and Dr. Hahn also answered listener questions on heart palpitations, protecting iron levels during heavier periods, and how ovarian function can shift after a hysterectomy.


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Episode Details

  • Podcast: The Menopause Hour with Winona

  • Episode Number: 36

  • Episode Title: Episode #36: Surprising Signs of Perimenopause

  • Host: Madi Baldwin

  • Featured Physician: Dr. Cathleen Brown

  • Guest: Dr. Taylor Hahn (OBGYN & Obesity Medicine Physician at her private practice)

  • Published Date: March 18, 2026

  • Episode Duration: 58 minutes 49 seconds

  • Format: Doctor Dialogue

  • Main Topics: Perimenopause Symptoms, Surprising Signs, Symptom Tracking

About The Menopause Hour with Winona Podcast

The Menopause Hour with Winona is a health and wellness podcast hosted by Winona's Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Michael Green, and Medical Director, Dr. Cathleen Brown. Each episode tackles real questions about perimenopause and menopause, pairing medical expertise with clear, direct talk about symptoms, treatment options, and the science that explains them.

The show moves between live Q&A sessions, doctor-led conversations, and patient stories. In its live Q&A format, women from Winona's community submit questions directly to the hosts, creating practical discussions shaped by the concerns women commonly bring to their own doctors

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About This Episode

This Doctor Dialogue brought together Dr. Cathleen Brown and guest Dr. Taylor Hahn to discuss perimenopause symptoms that often surprise women, since they don't fit the more familiar hot flash and night sweat picture. The doctors described unusual itching, sudden smell sensitivity, and frozen shoulder as effects of fluctuating estrogen on the body's tissues. They also discussed how new-onset anxiety, panic attacks, and shifts in libido and self-confidence can also accompany the transition.

Listener questions ranged from heart palpitations and how to distinguish worsening PMS from perimenopause, to protecting iron levels when periods become more frequent. Dr. Hahn also shared how ovarian function can decline earlier than expected after a hysterectomy, even when the ovaries are preserved, while Dr. Brown emphasized the importance of symptom tracking and self-advocacy when working with a doctor unfamiliar with menopause care.

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Topics Covered

  • Unusual itching in the ears, eyes, and scalp during perimenopause

  • Frozen shoulder and joint stiffness linked to declining estrogen

  • Sudden sensitivity to smells during the menopause transition

  • New or worsening anxiety and panic attacks in perimenopause

  • Changes in libido, confidence, and sense of self

  • Urinary incontinence and its effect on intimacy

  • Heart palpitations and when to seek evaluation

  • Skin and hair changes, including dryness and thinning

  • Distinguishing worsening PMS from perimenopause

  • Choosing between birth control and hormone therapy in your 30s and 40s

  • Protecting iron levels when periods become more frequent

  • How ovarian function can be affected after a hysterectomy

Key Takeaways

Perimenopause can bring surprising symptoms far beyond hot flashes and irregular periods

Dr. Brown and Dr. Hahn described lesser-known symptoms like itchy ears, eyes, and scalp, sudden sensitivity to smells, and frozen shoulder as effects of fluctuating estrogen on the body's tissues. They noted these subtle changes often build gradually, which is why a symptom diary helps women and their doctors spot patterns.

Heart palpitations are common in perimenopause, but new cardiac symptoms still warrant evaluation

Dr. Brown explained that fluctuating estrogen affects the heart's electrical activity and can cause palpitations, something she experienced herself. She emphasized that heart disease is the leading cause of death for women overall, a separate consideration from other health fears, and that chest pain, shortness of breath, or sweating alongside palpitations should always be checked out.

Periods can become more frequent in perimenopause, not just further apart

Dr. Hahn clarified that many patients expect their cycles to space out as they approach menopause, but for some women periods actually arrive closer together and with a different flow. She recommended tracking cycle length and bleeding patterns to catch these shifts early.

Bioidentical hormone therapy and birth control treat perimenopause differently

Dr. Hahn explained that birth control can offer more cycle control for women who still need contraception, while bioidentical hormone therapy supplements declining hormones without suppressing the ovaries as effectively. Dr. Brown added that women hoping for better cycle regulation shouldn't expect that from hormone therapy alone.

Ovarian function can decline earlier after a hysterectomy, even with the ovaries left in place

Dr. Hahn noted that newer data suggests ovarian blood supply and function can be affected during hysterectomy surgery, even when the ovaries themselves are preserved. Dr. Brown added that removing the fallopian tubes during these procedures, now common practice for cancer prevention, may also affect nearby ovarian tissue.

Cathleen M. Brown

Dr. Cathleen M. Brown

Obstetrics & Gynecology

Dr. Cathleen Brown is a menopause specialist and physician with Winona. She brings a physician’s perspective to menopause, perimenopause, hormone changes, symptom care, and treatment options during midlife.

At Winona, Dr. Brown helps women better understand symptoms, health history, hormone changes, and when physician-reviewed care may be appropriate.

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