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Hello, Hot Flash: Dr. Cathleen Brown on the FDA Panel & Personalized Menopause Care - Episode #237

Published: October, 2025

Dr. Cathleen Brown

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Cathleen M. Brown

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Stephanie Shaw

Dr. Cathleen Brown, board-certified OB/GYN and medical director of Winona, joins host Stephanie Shaw on Ep. 237 of Hello, Hot Flash to break down the FDA's 2025 advisory panel on menopause and hormone therapy.

Together, they cover why menopause treatment can't follow a one-size-fits-all approach, what the panel's review of the black box warning on vaginal estrogen could mean for patients, and how telehealth is closing long-standing gaps in access to care — insight that matters for anyone trying to make sense of their own options during this stage of life.


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Episode Details

  • Podcast: Hello, Hot Flash

  • Episode: 237

  • Episode Title: Ep. 237 How The FDA Panel On Menopause Can Change Women's Health Care, Dr. Cat Brown, Winona, Explains

  • Host: Stephanie Shaw

  • Guest: Dr. Cathleen Brown

  • Published Date: October 30, 2025

  • Episode Duration: 40 minutes

  • Format: Audio Interview 

  • Main Topics: HRT, FDA panel, Black box warning removal

About Hello, Hot Flash

Hello, Hot Flash is a faith-informed, evidence-based menopause podcast hosted by Stephanie Shaw, created for Christian women navigating perimenopause and menopause who want real answers instead of dismissals. Stephanie built the show after her own difficult diagnostic journey, and each week she talks with physicians, hormone specialists, and other experts to break down the most-searched menopause topics in plain language.

The show pairs practical, medically grounded guidance with a faith-centered lens, and is recognized as one of the more prominent podcasts in the menopause space — ranked in the Top 3% of podcasts worldwide by Listen Notes.

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About This Episode

Menopause treatment isn't one-size-fits-all — this episode makes the case for why that matters right now. Dr. Cathleen Brown walks through the outcomes of the FDA's July 2025 advisory panel on menopause and hormone therapy, including growing support for revisiting decades-old warning labels that may have discouraged patients and physicians from considering HRT when it could’ve helped.

The conversation also digs into where women's health has been historically underserved — like the absence of an FDA-approved testosterone option — and why shared decision-making between patients and doctors is essential in getting treatment right. For anyone weighing their options, or trying to separate outdated fears from current understanding, this episode offers a grounded, doctor-led starting point.

Topics Covered

  • Key outcomes from the FDA's July 2025 advisory panel on menopause and hormone therapy

  • Why menopause treatment should be individualized rather than one-size-fits-all

  • Common misconceptions about HRT and cancer risk

  • The case for revisiting the black box warning on vaginal estrogen

  • How untreated genitourinary symptoms can lead to more serious complications

  • The lack of an FDA-approved testosterone option for women

  • How hormone therapy timing affects safety and effectiveness

  • What shared decision-making looks like in a doctor's appointment

  • How Winona's telehealth model gives patients more direct access to care

  • Advice for building trust between patients and physicians

Key Takeaways

Menopause Care Should Be Individualized, Not One-Size-Fits-All

Dr. Brown emphasizes that treatment decisions should account for each patient's age, symptoms, health history, and personal preferences rather than following a single standard approach. She describes offering patients a range of options — including oral, transdermal, and other delivery methods — so they can choose what they're most likely to stick with consistently.

The FDA Panel Reopened the Conversation Around the Black Box Warning

The July 2025 FDA panel reviewed whether the black box warning currently included with vaginal estrogen prescriptions still reflects current research. Dr. Brown explains that this warning was designed for systemic estrogen products and doesn't accurately describe the safety profile of vaginal estrogen, which is only absorbed locally.

Fear of Breast Cancer Often Keeps Patients From Considering HRT

Dr. Brown notes that many patients avoid HRT out of a fear of breast cancer that isn't proportionate to their individual risk. It's worth being precise here: this isn't a claim that HRT is risk-free, or a comparison of which condition HRT is more likely to cause — some HRT regimens carry a possible breast cancer risk, and hormone therapy may also affect cardiovascular risk in certain circumstances. The point Dr. Brown makes is that patients deserve accurate, individualized information about their actual risk level, rather than broad, outdated fears standing in the way of a conversation with their doctor.

Lack of FDA-Approved Testosterone for Women Reflects a Broader Care Gap

Dr. Brown points to the absence of an FDA-approved testosterone product formulated specifically for women, which she says forces physicians to adapt male-dosed products without clear guidelines. She frames this as one example of how women's health needs — including libido, bone health, and muscle strength — have historically received less research investment.

Telehealth Access Can Close Long-Standing Gaps in Menopause Care

Dr. Brown describes Winona's asynchronous model, where patients can message their doctor at any time rather than waiting for a scheduled appointment. She points to this kind of access as especially valuable for patients managing symptoms that don't follow a convenient schedule, like waking up with symptoms in the middle of the night.


Cathleen M. Brown

Dr. Cathleen M. Brown

Obstetrics & Gynecology

Dr. Cathleen Brown is a menopause specialist and physician with Winona. She brings a physician’s perspective to menopause, perimenopause, hormone changes, symptom care, and treatment options during midlife.

At Winona, Dr. Brown helps women better understand symptoms, health history, hormone changes, and when physician-reviewed care may be appropriate.

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