E62- HRT Made Easy with Dr Cathleen Brown of Winona
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Your Magical Midlife: Dr. Cathleen Brown on HRT Made Easy - Episode #62

Published: February, 2025

Dr. Cathleen Brown

Featured Physician

Cathleen M. Brown

Host

Kate Higgins

Dr. Cathleen Brown, Medical Director at Winona and a board-certified OB-GYN, joined host Kate Higgins on Episode 62 of Your Magical Midlife to demystify hormone replacement therapy. Both women shared their own experiences navigating confusing, inconsistent guidance from doctors during perimenopause.

Dr. Brown breaks down the difference between bioidentical and synthetic hormones, walks through how estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone work together, and addresses the breast cancer fears that keep many women from starting HRT. It's a clear, practical primer for anyone trying to make sense of their treatment options.

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Episode Details

  • Podcast: Your Magical Midlife

  • Episode: 62

  • Episode Title: HRT Made Easy with Dr Cathleen Brown of Winona

  • Host: Kate Higgins

  • Guest: Dr. Cathleen Brown

  • Published Date: February 20, 2025

  • Episode Duration: 47 minutes

  • Format: Audio Interview

  • Main Topics: HRT, Menopause, Midlife, Women's Health

About Your Magical Midlife Podcast

Your Magical Midlife is hosted by Kate Higgins, a licensed therapist turned coach, for women 40+ navigating midlife outside the usual "fix yourself" narrative. The show blends confessional storytelling, advice, and interviews exploring the emotional and spiritual sides of aging that are often left out of mainstream midlife content.

In Episode 62, Higgins sits down with Winona's Dr. Cathleen Brown to untangle the sometimes confusing landscape of hormone replacement therapy and help listeners feel more equipped to advocate for their own care.

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Kate opens the conversation by naming a frustration many women share: walking out of the doctor's office with a prescription they don't understand. Dr. Brown responds with a plain-language breakdown of bioidentical versus synthetic hormones, explaining that "bioidentical" simply means a hormone's structure matches what the body naturally produces, while options like progestins and the estrogen used in birth control pills do not.

From there, the two dig into practical questions: how to choose between patches, creams, and pills, why birth control and HRT are not interchangeable, and how long it's actually safe to stay on hormone therapy. Dr. Brown also tackles the breast cancer fear that keeps many women from starting treatment, and explains Winona's asynchronous telehealth model, which lets patients message their doctor anytime rather than waiting weeks for an appointment.

Topics Covered

  • The difference between bioidentical and synthetic hormones

  • How estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone interact and fluctuate during perimenopause

  • Early, often-overlooked signs of perimenopause, including brain fog and mood changes

  • Choosing a delivery method: patches, creams, pills, and pellets

  • How long it's safe to stay on HRT

  • Progesterone's role in protecting the uterine lining

  • Addressing the breast cancer fear tied to HRT, and how it compares to heart disease risk

  • What DHEA is and how it supports testosterone levels safely

  • Why birth control pills and HRT are not interchangeable

  • Winona's asynchronous telehealth model and how care is delivered

  • How Winona supports patients with nutrition and lifestyle beyond medication

  • Advice for women just starting to notice perimenopause symptoms

Key Takeaways

Bioidentical Hormones Match What the Body Already Makes

Dr. Brown explains that bioidentical hormones like estradiol and estriol are structurally identical to what the body naturally produces, unlike the progestins and synthetic estrogens used in many birth control pills.

HRT and Birth Control Serve Different Purposes

Birth control pills suppress the body's own hormone production to prevent ovulation, while HRT simply supplements declining hormones — meaning HRT does not prevent pregnancy, so women still cycling need separate contraception.

The Breast Cancer Fear Around HRT Is Often Overstated

Dr. Brown points out that heart disease kills far more women than breast cancer, and that estrogen may actually lower cardiac risk. It's specifically the estrogen-progesterone combination that carries a slightly elevated risk worth weighing against the benefits.

DHEA Offers a Gentler Path to Testosterone Support

There are currently no FDA-approved testosterone products specifically for women in the U.S. Winona offers DHEA, a precursor hormone that the body converts into testosterone as an alternative way to support hormone levels without prescribing testosterone directly.

HRT Can Be a Long-Term, Even Indefinite, Part of Care

Dr. Brown explains that older guidance of "smallest dose, shortest duration" has shifted — as long as risks and benefits are reevaluated over time, women can safely stay on HRT indefinitely.


Cathleen M. Brown

Dr. Cathleen M. Brown

Obstetrics & Gynecology

Dr. Cathleen Brown is a menopause specialist and physician with Winona. She brings a physician’s perspective to menopause, perimenopause, hormone changes, symptom care, and treatment options during midlife.

At Winona, Dr. Brown helps women better understand symptoms, health history, hormone changes, and when physician-reviewed care may be appropriate.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Your Magical Midlife Podcast

  •  The episode is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, iHeart, and Buzzsprout.

  • Dr. Brown explains that bioidentical hormones are structurally identical to what the body naturally produces, while synthetic hormones and progestins, common in birth control, have a different molecular structure.

  • Dr. Brown explains that fears about HRT and breast cancer often lack important context. The risk depends on the type of hormone therapy used. Combined estrogen-progesterone therapy may slightly increase the risk of breast cancer, while estrogen alone carries less risk.

  • Dr. Brown explains that as long as risks and benefits are reevaluated regularly, women can safely stay on HRT indefinitely rather than for a fixed, limited duration.

  • DHEA is a precursor hormone that Winona uses to help raise testosterone levels gently, since testosterone itself is currently only FDA-approved for men in the U.S.