The Menopause Hour - Episode -29
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The Menopause Hour with Winona: Surviving the Holidays in Menopause - Episode #29

Published: November, 2025

Dr. Cathleen Brown

Featured Physician

Cathleen M. Brown

Host

Madi Baldwin

Episode #29 of The Menopause Hour with Winona was a Doctor Dialogue hosted by Madi Baldwin and featuring Winona Chief Medical Officer Dr. Michael Green and Medical Director Dr. Cathleen Brown. The conversation focused on how to manage menopause symptoms during the holiday season.

The doctors emphasized why maintaining consistency with hormone replacement therapy (HRT) is essential when navigating stressful travel and busy schedules. They also addressed how long women can safely remain on HRT and the data behind breast cancer risk for women with a family history. Dr. Green and Dr. Brown also answered listener questions about skin changes, supplements, and weight management strategies during the menopause transition.


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Episode Details

  • Podcast: The Menopause Hour with Winona

  • Episode Number: 29

  • Episode Title: Episode #29: Surviving the Holidays in Menopause

  • Host: Madi Baldwin

  • Featured Physicians: Dr. Cathleen Brown & Dr. Michael Green

  • Published Date: November 25, 2025

  • Episode Duration: 43 minutes 23 seconds

  • Format: Doctor Dialogue

  • Main Topics: HRT Safety, Breast Cancer Risk, Holiday Stress

About The Menopause Hour with Winona Podcast

The Menopause Hour with Winona is a health and wellness podcast featuring Winona Chief Medical Officer Dr. Michael Green and Medical Director Dr. Cathleen Brown. The show addresses common questions about perimenopause and menopause, combining medical expertise with straightforward discussions of symptoms, treatment options, and the science behind the menopause transition.

Episodes include live Q&A sessions, doctor-led conversations, and patient stories. In its live Q&A format, women from Winona's community submit questions directly to the hosts, creating practical discussions shaped by the concerns women commonly bring to their own doctors.

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About This Episode

This Doctor Dialogue paired Winona's two lead physicians for a wide-ranging conversation about navigating the holidays without losing ground on hormone therapy.

Dr. Green opened with practical advice on keeping up with HRT while traveling, such as planning refills ahead of trips and resisting the urge to pause treatment during a busy season. Dr. Brown added that women often overcommit during the holidays and encouraged listeners to protect their own sleep, nutrition, and self-care alongside family commitments.

Listeners asked a variety of questions regarding perimenopausal acne, skin sensitivity, and how supplements like calcium, vitamin D, and magnesium complement a hormone therapy routine. A significant portion of the conversation was dedicated to breast cancer concerns, with Dr. Green explaining how older research linking HRT to increased breast cancer risk used a different type of progesterone than the bioidentical micronized progesterone Winona prescribes today. Dr. Brown agreed, emphasizing that a family history of breast cancer doesn't automatically rule out hormone therapy. They also discussed the cardiovascular benefits HRT offers when started early in the menopause transition.

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Topics Covered

  • Staying consistent with HRT while traveling over the holidays

  • Planning prescription refills ahead of travel

  • Setting boundaries and prioritizing self-care alongside family commitments

  • How long women typically stay on hormone therapy

  • Why routine hormone testing isn't recommended for guiding treatment

  • Acne and skin changes linked to DHEA and hormonal fluctuations

  • Giving the body time to adjust after a dose increase

  • Family history of breast cancer and whether it rules out HRT

  • The difference between synthetic and bioidentical progesterone in regards to breast cancer risk

  • Best areas of the body to apply hormone cream for sensitive skin

  • Which vitamins and supplements pair well with hormone therapy

  • Managing "meno belly" through stress reduction and protein intake

Key Takeaways

Bioidentical progesterone likely doesn’t carry the same breast cancer risk as synthetic progestins

Dr. Green explained that older studies linking HRT to increased breast cancer risk used a synthetic progestin, and that women taking estrogen alone showed no increased risk. He noted that newer data on bioidentical micronized progesterone suggests that it likely does not carry the same risk as synthetic versions, though he described this as promising rather than fully established research.

A family history of breast cancer doesn't automatically rule out HRT

Dr. Brown explained that a confirmed BRCA gene mutation meaningfully changes a patient’s benefit-risk profile, but a general family history of breast cancer alone does not make a patient ineligible for HRT.

She and Dr. Green encouraged listeners to look at breast cancer risk within the context of the whole health picture, noting that heart disease is the leading cause of death among women overall independent of HRT use and that properly timed treatment has been shown to reduce cardiovascular risk. The doctors recommended that women not avoid treatment solely based on a relative's breast cancer diagnosis.

Routine hormone testing isn't a reliable way to guide menopause treatment

Dr. Brown explained that hormone testing doesn't tell physicians where a woman is in the menopause transition or whether treatment adjustments are needed. Neither the Menopause Society nor the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) recommends it. She pointed to a patient symptom diary as far more useful than lab results for guiding care.

Clinical guidelines have shifted away from rigid limits on treatment duration

Dr. Brown and Dr. Green described a modern shift away from the older clinical approach of "lowest dose, shortest amount of time." Long-term data shows benefits for bone, heart, and cognitive health, and many women continue HRT indefinitely once they experience its benefits and as long as no treatment contraindications develop.

“Meno belly" can be managed with stress reduction and protein intake, not just diet and exercise

Dr. Brown explained that elevated cortisol levels from chronic stress can cause the body to hold onto weight around the midsection regardless of diet or exercise. She recommended prioritizing sleep, stress management, and adequate protein intake, noting that body fat distribution tends to stabilize as hormones reach a steady state in the blood with HRT.


Cathleen M. Brown

Dr. Cathleen M. Brown

Obstetrics & Gynecology

Dr. Cathleen Brown is a menopause specialist and physician with Winona. She brings a physician’s perspective to menopause, perimenopause, hormone changes, symptom care, and treatment options during midlife.

At Winona, Dr. Brown helps women better understand symptoms, health history, hormone changes, and when physician-reviewed care may be appropriate.

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